Wednesday, June 22, 2005

Some Links

  • Full Homely Divinity alert! A full page of links to delicious-looking articles at the new Anglican Resource. Included are the 1945 article by Michael Ramsey, "What Is Anglican Theology?"; Dom Robert Hale, OSB, writes on "The Benedictine Spirit in Anglicanism"; and there are several links to article about art and music: "Anglican Devotion - The Hymnal"; "'Complete in the Beauty of Holiness': Anglican Identity and Aesthetics"; and "'The High, the Deep, and the Domestic': Anglican Verse and the Voice of God's People."

    Haven't read 'em yet, but they look inviting. There are also a couple of book reviews, here. Actually, I think they've added quite a bit, and I'm still poking around to see what.

  • Here's a newly-posted article by James Alison called Some thoughts on the Atonement. Some really interesting tying-together of Jewish temple liturgy and atonement theory.

  • Via AKMA, a nice web-based reference: Etymology Online. If you want to help 'em out, expense-wise, you can Sponsor a Word!

  • James Howard Kunstler brings you the Eyesore of the Month!

  • Here's one of my favorite wacky-techie sites, Soda. Just click there to play.

  • And here's a guy with way too much time on his hands:


Karen said...

Uh uh. This guy seems to have more time on his hands than anyone.

LutheranChik said...

Great links!

I loved "Eyesore of the Month"...I could drive around Outer Podunk with my camera and provide enough visual eyesores for years on end.;-)

I also appreciated the Courage article on the Atonement...I think in lot of contemporary Christian circles the Christus Victor theory -- Cliff Note version: God dies and in so doing defeats death in a cosmic sense -- is in ascendancy because people are uncomfortable with the sacrificial imagery. This article reframes the idea of Christ as sacrifice in a way that perhaps makes more sense to our contemporary minds.

Derek the Ænglican said...

The atonement article is interesting--but it isn't compelling. He's got a problem from the very beginning. Note the first description of the atonement rite. Where are the references? What are his sources? From whence comes the logic behind it? All of the discussion about materials and Veils and stuff is great--but it's an Alexandrian kind of logic that doesn't enter Jewish thinking into the dialogue with Platonism that began with Aristobulos and culminated in Philo (who was a contemporary of St Paul).

If he could show me the sources that document the logic I might be able to go along with it. Otherwise, it seems like a dodge to say that the Hebrew understanding of sacrifice was completely different and superior to that of their pagan neighbors. Furthermore, the idea that humanity ("We") are the angry God that needs propitiation is a misreading of the passage.

It was a good thought though...I still hold to a Christus Victor theology of the atonement.

bls said...

Derek, the article says that this was a transcript of a talk he gave, so it's unlikely he'd include those kinds of references.

I agree I'd like to see them, though. But I don't think he'd say these things without reason. Perhaps this is more fully explicated elsewhere - in his writings, maybe?

bls said...

(I was really interested in the way he describes the role of the priest.

This, for instance: "Remember the phrase, “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord”? This is a reference to the rite of atonement, the coming in of the high priest – one of the many references to the rite of atonement we get in the New Testament – and of which we are largely ignorant!"

I'm sure he's got something to back this statement up with! But again, I agree: I'd love to know more.)

Derek the Ænglican said...

But he did put in some Scripture references. He could have even casually refered to his source (" reading is based on a Mishnah tractate" or "this is all written out in the Bible" [which it's not] etc.). It's a fascinating contention--I just want to know that it also exists somewhere other than in his head.

Derek the Ænglican said...

Off topic randomness-- new amusing quiz:

It's a denomination picker and it seemed to work well for me... ;-)

Rank Item Percent
1: Anglican/Episcopal/Church of England (100%)
2: Eastern Orthodox (96%)
3: Roman Catholic (86%)
4: Lutheran (77%)
5: Presbyterian/Reformed (72%)
6: Congregational/United Church of Christ (50%)
7: Church of Christ/Campbellite (45%)
8: Baptist (Reformed/Particular/Calvinistic) (43%)
9: Methodist/Wesleyan/Nazarene (38%)
10: Baptist (non-Calvinistic)/Plymouth Brethren/Fundamentalist (29%)
11: Pentecostal/Charismatic/Assemblies of God (29%)
12: Seventh-Day Adventist (20%)
13: Anabaptist (Mennonite/Quaker etc.) (16%)

bls said...

Well, I've found independent confirmation for his other off-the-beaten-track contentions before - that Augustine and Clement of Alexandria did not interpret Romans 1 as referring to lesbianism, for instance - so I expect I'll find he's right about this, too. I really am interested to know.

Meantime, check out Karen's Flying Viking Kitten website.


(And I'll be choosing my denomination....)

LutheranChik said...

I'm going to save my quiz results for my lay ministry training program, in case they give me any guff about my candidacy;-):

1: Lutheran (100%)
2: Eastern Orthodox (96%)
3: Anglican/Episcopal/Church of England (91%)
4: Roman Catholic (80%)
5: Presbyterian/Reformed (44%)
6: Anabaptist (Mennonite/Quaker etc.) (41%)
7: Baptist (non-Calvinistic)/Plymouth Brethren/Fundamentalist (36%)
8: Congregational/United Church of Christ (35%)
9: Pentecostal/Charismatic/Assemblies of God (34%)
10: Baptist (Reformed/Particular/Calvinistic) (31%)
11: Methodist/Wesleyan/Nazarene (29%)
12: Church of Christ/Campbellite (26%)
13: Seventh-Day Adventist (23%)

"You need me in the ELCA!"

I'm not sure why I got a higher score in Eastern Orthodoxy than Anglicanism, though...I wonder what tipped the quiz in that direction.

bls said...

Well, I couldn't figure out the answers to that quiz - or even what the questions meant. That's what you get for asking a mystic about "salvation" and "predestination."

But I'm pretty sure I'm 100% Anglican, anyway....